Wrestling with the PUMAs

Posted by David Speakman on Sep 4, 2008 in Links |

Sometimes I just can’t help myself…

Especially when it comes to fighting with the traitors .. uh … PUMAs in the Democratic Party. As an avid Hillary supporter who was frustrated with some of the underhanded tactics the Obama primary campaign used to sully the reputation of Hillary and her husband (calling things racist when they were not), I’ve done the grown-up thing and come to terms that Mr. Obama is the next best thing to Hillary this year.

So, I’ll be voting for him come November 4.

Below is a transcript of a conversation I’ve had over the past few months with a group of Hillary folk - many of which became PUMAs .. and abandoned Hillary and everything she stands for as they moved to the McCain camp.

 It’s sad and a little scary how people can turn so fast on each other in a few short weeks.

 

The narrative begins the day after Obama clinched the nomination with enough super delegate commitments after the final primaries from a facebook message list called “HILLARY SUPPORTERS”:

 

Joanna Pena-Bickley
 June 7 at 6:37am
 
Guys - we need to get touch with the campaign. she cannot give up her delegates. Last night I received to calls from the Texas delgations that the original Obama delegates have gone to Clinton. Woman were walking out and vowing to support McCain. There is also going to be a million woman march to the capital. They are convinced the can over turn this by August.

Don Brown
June 7 at 7:03am
 
Joanna,
What you’re saying sounds incredibly plausible. I hope she only “suspends” her campaign.

Brandon Hubbard
 June 7 at 8:51am
 
vote mccain! see yall in 2012!

Helen Du
 June 7 at 6:23pm
 
Yup! McCain ‘08 if you’re a true Hillblazer!

David Speakman
June 7 at 7:43pm
I’ve been thinking about this long and hard over the past few days:
As you all know, I am a big ol’ Hillary supporter. And I will continue to support Hillary and take steps to ensure her reputation and influence are not harmed by the aftermath of the travesty of the 2008 primary process.
So:

  • As someone who believes in equal rights for women, racial minorities and LGBT people,
  • As someone who believe we need to finally pass the Equal Rights Amendment after 35 years of denying women true equal status under the law,
  • As someone who believes that a woman’s right to choose - to control the destiny of her own body is an inalienable right that protects all of our rights over our own body,
  • As someone who thinks the war in Iraq should end with all due haste,
  • As someone who believed in universal health care, and thinks that only a Democratic administration will get it passed,
  • As someone who understands the two oldest members of the Supreme Court are the two mot liberal members and danger of another republican naming their replacements should the unthinkable happen,
  • As someone who is worried about gas prices, losing my job and/or my ability to get student loans,
  • As someone who doesn’t want Hillary to be pegged as a person who tore the Democratic Party apart, and as someone who does NOT want that reputation to kill off Hillary’s political career,
  • I will not be voting for McCain. I will not cast any vote - including a write-in vote for Hillary - that would actually HELP keep Republicans in the office.

I will hold my nose and vote for Obama if he is on the ballot in November.
To do otherwise would inflict grave harm on the woman we all support and prove right the Obamabots and the press that have been spewing the hateful bile that all we wanted to do was spilt the party.
Knowing all that Hillary stands for, I truly believe that voting for McCain would be a slap in the face to Hillary - and to America.
Rest assured, I will not “vote for Obama” in November - But I *will* be voting to put a Democrat in the White House, even if I have to check off the box next to Obama’s name.
Then, I will go home, and fight off the urge to vomit, knowing that I am an honorable enough human being to be willing to sacrifice my own pride and ego in order to do the right thing for future generations.
David Speakman,
Hillary Supporter

David Huggins
June 7 at 8:30pm

David
Did you just get retained by the Obama team?
Stop pulling a John Edwards.

David Speakman
June 7 at 8:59pm
Nope.
I support Hillary.
But I will not sell my soul to the Republican devil out of spite or foolish pride.

Helen Du
 June 8 at 1:44am
 
@ David Speakman:
Please do not pass judgement about others. We respect your decisions but please do not attack others about foolish pride.
PUMA ‘08

David Speakman
June 8 at 2:19am
I never attacked others. I came to a conclusion for myself only and explained my reasoning.
I am, however feeling attacked by you folks.

Helen Du
June 8 at 2:37am
 @ David Speakman:
I did not attack you. I told you that I respect your decision. However, I found it offensive when you accused us of voting for McCain out of foolish pride. You jumped to conclusion as you have yet us asked or tried to empathize with our feelings.
PUMA ‘08

David Speakman
June 8 at 8:15am
Ah,
I am sorry I was unclear.
I meant that would have been MY foolish pride.
I did soul searching over the past few days and came to the conclusion that the only reason *I* would have as a gay man for not voting Democratic would be pride, which is foolish considering how Republicans are openly hostile toward my own fundamental civil rights (employment, housing, speech, marriage).
Then the rest started clicking into place.
After I took my own personal anger out of the issue, I realized that neither my personal long-term interests nor those of my country would be well served by taking any action that would increase the chances of Republicans staying in the White House for (at least) another four years.

My conscious won’t let me.
I cannot speak for others’ actions, only my own.
As I’ve hears from others who have come to similar terms with themselves, it now just gets businesslike.
Although I vehemently disagree with how it happened and think the process stunk, stinks and will continue to stink until it is junked and fixed, compared to the alternatives, I am sure only a Democratic president will sign laws passed by a Democratic Congress to better this planet and humanity in general.
I do not like Obama; I doubt I ever will. I think despite his image, his tactic in smearing Hillary and her husband are beneath contempt.
If I cast a ballot for Democrats and he coincidentally is on the ballot, it will be a dispassionate decision of mine. Like I said: I have no intention of voting for Obama.
I can never imagine a time I would ever vote *for* Obama.
I’m voting against the Republican hate and war machine. So, I’ll be voting for a Democratic presidency.
And it appears that I’ll be forced to check off the box next to his name in November.
Obama is not my Choice. I consider him a tool…
He is a tool… in every sense of the word. Merely a tool.
And that tool is standing smack dab in the middle of the only path that leads to a Democratic White House.
So, if I am going to be forced to used that tool, then I am going to demand much out of it, then toss it aside the first chance I can.
It used to be personal with Hillary; now it’s just business.
I cannot in good conscious vote for a republican with Stevens and Ginsberg in such advanced years.
I would not be able to live with myself if thought my action or inaction, they died with a Republican White House and were replaced by clones of Clarence Thomas or A. Scalia. If women lost the right to control their own bodies just because I had hurt feelings is not an acceptable option to me.
I also cannot sit idly by and let the slimy Obama machine hijack my party, leaving me behind. I choose to stay a democrat and fight kicking and screaming to save my party. Resistance is not futile.
I choose to fight within my party of 20 years.
Your choice, of course, is your own.

  • I am not an Obamabot. And because of that, I will not pass judgment on those who choose a different path than the one I have chosen.

I just ask that you think your actions through thoroughly.
If you have and you have self-assurance the good will outweigh the bad that will result from your decisions, then it is an honorable one to me - even if it is a different conclusion than my own.

  • I am not an Obamabot, therefore I will not judge your integrity just because your core beliefs are different than my own.
  • I am not an Obamabot, therefore I will not say bad things about you personally because you choose a different path than the one I have chosen.

I wish you peace and I do hope your efforts on your chosen path will benefit us all.
David Speakman,
Hillary Supporter and Democrat

Joanna Pena-Bickley
 June 8 at 8:44am
 
Republicans are not a war machine. for me i cannot in good conscious support Obama. I need proof that Obama is an independent thinker with his own ideas. He has stood silent on Immigration reform, education reform and real universal healthcare.
My vote for McCain is not an anger vote - it is a vote for America and who can get us out of the pinch we are in now. we need to see this as a hiring decision and I choose to hire a president who will bring the war in Iraq to an end in a safe way. McCain has that experience. I need a president who can stop the ridiculous spending habits in Washington - Obama has stood silent when bills have passed with big spending measures. McCain has created the most sweeping reform in this area. that s why I will vote for McCain.

David Speakman
June 8 at 8:47am
That is your choice, and I respect it.

Adontai Mason
June 8 at 12:03pm
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This is a very interesting conversation. I to am having to determine which candidate I will be voting for, but I am very grateful for David Speakman’s letter. It really rings true in a lot of ways for *me*. Because I agree with what he said I to am more likely to vote for Obama.
Thank you!

Esther Wu
June 8 at 10:49pm
 
Now that the only easy and logical choice on the ballot is no longer available, we are now faced with difficult choices.
Most of us will go with the flow at this point…. both choices that we are left with are frankly, bad ones.
As much as some of us are hoping that Hillary will be the vice presidential running mate, Obama has put Caroline kennedy in the selection committee for the very purpose of gracefully ruling Hillary out. If anyone plays old game politics by the rules, it is Barack Obama.
To come to terms with Obama’s character is tough for all of us. TO think that someone with world views similar to Reverand Wright, who has successfully masked his true attitude towards America in such a highly publicized campaign is frightening.
Obviously, with 2 bad choices left, some people will choose one bad choice over the other while some will choose the other bad choice.
Obviously, Hillary is biased because she is a democrat and she will support whoever is the democratic nominee even if it is Barack Obama. However, we must also remember that all presidential candidates remember who it is that put them there.
Kennedy’s royalty status in the democratic party will trump even the mighty Clintonian political powerhouse. Similarly, under the careful watch of the big players in the democratic power, without whose help, Obama would be nothing, Obama will never have the opportunity to think on his own or to make any meaningful changes in American politics. His goal is to win the nomination and then the presidency, once that is accomplished, his work is also done.
On the other hand, we’ve got McCain who vows to continue the war in Iraq indefinitely…. If this were the policy, America would be substantially weakened. And not ending the war in Iraq with reducing governmental spending is an oxymoron. It will not be possible to continue the war in Iraq and reduce governmental spending. In fact, the opposite will be true. Taxes would have to be increased along with rising gas prices, and cost of living.
We should just hope that enough public pressure forces Hillary in the vice-presidential spot so that we can all have a beacon of light…

Brandon Hubbard
 June 9 at 10:47am
 
Hillary vs. McCain 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Adontai Mason
 June 12 at 10:40am
 
Esther Wu great observations. I can’t say i disagree with them but it’s simply at this point a theory about how it’s going to play out. I think we all have to sit down and do out best to make the right decision. I believe Obama’s intentions are good, and I don’t necessarily accept that he supports Reverent Wrights opinions.
I would have preferred Clinton but this is where we are so let’s make the most of it.
Turn Lemons into Lemonade.
I’m hoping for an Obama and Clinton ticket.

David Speakman
June 13 at 9:06pm
I cannot in good conscience vote to in any manner that would continue allowing a Republican appoint Supreme Court justices.

It is a vote to protect the Supreme Court from yet another Republican president’s nomination powers.

So, when I check the box next to Obama’s name - it is not a vote for Obama in my mind.

David Huggins
June 14 at 8:35pm
 
David makes a good point about Supreme Court appointees, but if history is to be repeated or be used as any guide, Republican presidents don’t have the best track record of picking conservatives.

Not all the conservative selections turn out to be conservative.
President Eisenhower picked Earl Warren and William Brennan. Earl Warren wrote much of the progressive legislation protecting much, if not all, of the New Deal and set forth the motions for desegregation and re-apportionment (one person, one vote). Judge Brennan was known for his active liberal views on the bench – and his opposition to the death penalty.

In contrast, Kennedy’s appointment – Byron White – voted against Miranda V. Arizona and Roe V. Wade and Griswold V. Connecticut.
Nixon’s appointee – Judge Blackmun (who has the president’s best man at his wedding) was the majority opinion for Roe V. Wade. He also switched sides to join Thurgood Marshall shortly after the Bowers V. Hardwick decision.

Ford appointed John Paul Stevens – he is considered by most accounts, the liberal wing of the current supreme court.

Reagan appointed O’Connor – who’s judicial philosophy is hard to pinpoint, but she was far from being described as “conservative.”
Bush, sr appointed David Souter, an liberal wing of the Supreme Court.

Brandon Hubbard
 July 11 at 10:09am
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Sarah Jones
 September 2 at 11:32pm
 
This election is a circus! I think that I’m just going to write in Hillary, since she is the one I wanted to vote for and I don’t really like or agree with the others.
The news coverage of Palin’s daughter is just wrong- things like this happen to a lot of families and they are making to big a deal about it! Women in this election have not gotten the respect that they deserve and it makes me mad!

Helen Du
 September 3 at 2:17am
 
HI Sarah!

Please check with the election officials of your state about write-ins. Some state automatically award write-ins to the running candidate of the same party. So, a write-in for HRC would be a write-in for Obama.

I absolutely agree with you that this election is a circus. Obviously, race trumps gender. It is taken lightly when someone tells a woman to make a sandwich but all hell would break lose if Obama were told to go shine someone’s shoes. In fact, a vile person told HRC to stop running for president and go iron his shirt. Throughout the primary she was treated with disrespect by the media and Obama’s supporters. Even her supporters are accused of being racist yet no one dared to call out >90% of AAs voted for Obama. The poor people of WV were accused of being racist yet only about 80% of them voted for HRC whereas 90% of AAs voted for Obama.

I am absolutely disgusted by the way the media is treating the Palins. Poor Bristol! It is already hard enough to be a pregnant teenager and having to deal with classmates in school. Right now, the whole world is talking about her. If I were her, I would feel guilty about giving the media and political opponents reasons to take down my mother. I can’t imagine how awful Bristol must be feeling right now. It is most shameful to see former Hillary’s supporters engaging in sexist name calling toward Palin. She is being called porn star, bimbo…etc….John Roberts of CNN said that she should not run for VP, she should go home to raise her children. What kind of world are we living in?

Although I do not agree with Palin’s conservative stance, I have the utmost respect for her. She walks the talk whereas BO is all talk with no action. Contrary to the liberal media’s smear, Palin does have a lot of more experience than BO does. She is an executive of a state running a multi-billion budget, she has a record of reform, she is a Washington outsider. Aren’t these qualities the ones BO marketed himself to be during the primary? The difference is Palin has record of these accomplishments whereas BO only has his stump speeches.

My vote this November will go to McCain/Palin because I have faith that they will govern our country with integrity and competence. Our country is in crisis now and I do not want to entrust its fate in a demagogue who is an inexperienced politician and a flip-flopper. He has flip-flopped on Public Financing, NAFTA, Iraq, Iran, FISA, etc…How can I trust this man to run our country while he betrays every principles that he preached about. I refuse to vote by party line and support someone who I cannot trust nor can I respect.

Regards,

Helen

Don Brown
September 3 at 5:56am
 
Well said, Helen. I, too, will be voting McCain/Palin.

Brandon Hubbard
 September 3 at 6:28am
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Hillary 2012
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David Speakman
September 3 at 8:55am
A vote for McCain is a slap in the face to Hillary.

Helen Du
 September 3 at 8:56am
 
This isn’t about Hillary! This is about our country! Get over it! I refuse to vote for someone with empty rhetoric!

Chris Sheaffer
 September 3 at 9:40am
 
seriously, you guys are talking stupid now. All of you that are saying you are voting for mccain now clearly just want to see a woman in the white house. It is more than a woman getting a very powerful position. Hillary was a very good candidate and would have made a great president. It upsets me too but now you need to get over and vote for somebody with closely related political views and not somebody with exact opposite views just because he has a woman as his running mate. And that is all I have to say about that

Don Brown
September 3 at 10:53am
 
Oh wow! This is an old thread…I was thinking “where did these people come from?” LOL

Anyway guys, please don’t lump all Hillary supporters into the “liberal” column. I am a moderate who has always considered myself JUST left of center. I have said for months that my first choice was HRC and my second choice was McCain. As a moderate American who does not care for extreme liberalism OR conservatism, I feel more comfortable with McCain at the helm.

So although I respect your opinions, please stop saying that we’re betraying Hillary or that we’re “bitter.” Some of us actually LIKE McCain and want to vote for him.

Brandon Hubbard
 September 3 at 11:16am
 
VOTE MCCAIN–IGNORE NAMECALLERS. AND YES, I’M A MODERATE/DLC/CLINTON/REAGAN/SOUTHERN (TENNESSEE)/MIDDLE OF THE ROAD/CENTRIST DEMOCRAT!
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Helen Du
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September 3 at 1:55pm
 
Please do not call people names and lump us all as liberal. I’m a moderate. I voted for Hillary because I believed in her competence. Now, I support McCain/Palin because I believe in their ability to lead our country and to govern with integrity.

It is offensive to accuse people of voting for Hillary/Palin because of their gender.

Please respect other people’s opinions. We choose not to blindly vote by party line and it is our freedom to exercise indepdent thinking. We do not deserve any name calling!

David Speakman
September 3 at 11:49pm
Anyone who truly supports what Hillary stands for would never vote for John McCain.

I challenge any of the McCain supporters to show how McCain supports ANY of the issues that Hillary stood for during her campaign.

Helen Du
 Today at 12:20am
 
@ David Speakman:

Quit it! You’re annoying! Keep your opinions to yourself. You sound like a broken record! Let people be! I own my vote! I have already written above my reason to vote for McCain/Palin.

Again, my vote will go to McCain/Palin because they will govern with integrity, dignity, and competence, which I cannot say the same about Obama. McCain/Palin have records to show their accomplishment while Obama only has his stump speeches. McCain/Palin are reformers and bi-partisan while Obama can only dream of being!

David Speakman
Today at 4:06am

Helen,

By the violent tone of your last missive, I take it you have realized that McCain and Hillary share no substantive commonalities in their platform positions.

Although I can understand your frustration in being unable - as someone who claims to support Hillary to reconcile your current vocal and adamant support of McCain, I ask you to please stop the personal attacks.

The truth is - no true Hillary supporter would ever vote for McCain/Palin.

Now, I understand how hard it is for you as a Republican supporter to not resort to personal attacks on a Democrat - especially when you do not have logic on your side so you must resort to base-level emotional appeals for motivation. But name-calling does noting but hurt your credibility among those of us unfortunate enough to be subjected to it.

The truth is, you never supported what Hillary was fighting for, did you?

Maybe you supported her for the wrong reasons? I don’t know.

But it is obvious that you don’t support her ideas. Not really, if you are so easily willing to toss them aside to support McCain.

The fact is that the McCain/Palin ticket’s stances are the EXACT opposite to those of Hillary.

You claim to have been a Hillary supporter. But I doubt your sincerity (even if you voted for her or donated money to her campaign).

The fact that you are so adamantly supporting two candidates that combined represent the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Hillary campaigned on makes me believe you never really supported HILLARY at all - at best you were just ANTI-Obama.

At worst - you were always going to vote Republican anyway and are just trying to foment dissent among those of us who truly believe in what Hillary stood - AND STANDS - for.

It is an insult to our historic campaign to use Hillary’s name to justify taking actions that would destroy everything she has worked for over the past 40 years and dismantle the gains we’ve made as a country in civil rights for women, equality for racial minorities and advances in equal treatment for gay and lesbian people.

Philosophically, I have no problem with a dyed-in-the-wool Republican deciding to vote for McCain.

But, as a Hillary supporter and campaign volunteer, I am profoundly saddened and ashamed that some of the people I trusted and worked with these many months have gotten drunk on sour grape juice enough to insult Hillary - and belittle all of the hard work we put in to turn around and attack the very ideals we fought so hard for.

Every time so-called “supporters” invoke Hillary’s name and preach a vote for McCain - they are disrespecting her campaign in a very offensive way. But, I fear they may be letting their own selfish pride blind them to this reality.

Brandon Hubbard
 Today at 6:26am
 
Helen, just go ahead delete David from the message chain. Hillary 2012.
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David Speakman
Today at 8:27am
It might be easier if you pro-McCain folk delete yourselves from the Hillary groups.

Or, better yet - come to your senses and support a candidate who supports Hillary’s issues.

Otherwise, you are not supporting Hillary - you are sabotaging her career by associating her with turncoats

Please re-think your actions. It’s not to late to come to your senses and vote for a candidate who believes in universal health care and a woman’s right to choose.

Hillary for Senate Majority Leader in 2009!

Brandon Hubbard
 Today at 8:33am
 
McCain 2008 = Hillary 2012

David Speakman
Today at 8:45am
McCain in 2008 = at least one Supreme Court Justice being appointed by him (or Palin if he dies in office)

Justice John Paul Stevens is 88 years old
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg is 75

I Shudder to think that either of these folks will be replaced by a republican appointee.

I support Hillary’s fight to reclaim the White House for democrats this November.

I support the Hillary/Pelosi/Obama triumvirate. (Senate/ House/Exec)

Hillary for Senate Majority Leader in 2009!

Don Brown
Today at 8:52am
 
Well, see David, that’s the issue. Some of us never agreed with all of Hillary’s policies to begin with. Your posts sound passive aggressive and angry. Why don’t you try to understand OUR viewpoint. The world is not black and white…particularly in terms of political views. We moderates will rarely, if ever, agree completely with any one politician. That’s ok. our country was founded on checks and balances. Why do you think Democratic Presidents usually end up with a Republican congress and vice versa?

I, for instance, am a gay man who happens to think gay marriage is important, but far less important than other issues. My partner and I have been together for several years and enjoy shared benefits, a beautiful home, etc… I consider it selfish to make an “official marriage” priority, but I do believe in civil rights. I am, however, pro-life (unless the mother’s life is threatened) I lean to the left when it comes to health care, but I lean to the right when it comes to fiscal matters. As for the war, I agree with a timetable, but also think withdrawing troops should happen responsibly when conditions are safe to do so and we can feel good about leaving.

If you cannot see how someone with my views could go from a moderate democrat like Hillary to a moderate republican like McCain, then you are blind. Some of us happen to think both sides have their admirable qualities and I happen to think that a McCain/Palin White House mixed with a Democratic Congress is our best bet at this point.

So please, don’t try to diminish our love of Hillary…or influence our votes. We have thought through our options and feel strongly that we’ve made the right choice. You may not agree, but thank God we live in a country where we CAN disagree. Good day.

Helen Du
 Today at 1:45pm

@ David:

When have I attacked you? You have been attacking us non-stop. My previous email was in no way violent. I just told you to quit it and stop annoying people! You are the one that have been slaughtering our characters just because we choose to not vote for your candidate.

During the primary, you ruthlessly trashed Obama. How can you support him now? I know you’ll tell me you support him because of you believe he will be able to carry out democratic principles. Well, let me inform you, he has already betrayed a lot of principles that he preached during the primary: NAFTA, FISA, Iraq, Iran, Public Financing, etc….What makes you think he would’t betray more principles when he is in the White House.

Once again, I never once launced personal attack against you. Please stop criticizing us for our vote. And yes, I truly supported Hillary during the primary.

David Huggins
Today at 1:53pm
 
Please stop replying to this. I’m not interested. If you can get me off, please do.

Brandon Hubbard
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David Speakman
Today at 2:11pm
Don,

I, too, am a moderate and a gay man. Conservative (unwilling to adapt to economic realities) liberals piss me off about as much as conservative fundamentalists.

But I have minimum standards for what is acceptable in order to get my vote.

One instance: Both Palin and McCain support the Republican platform plank that denies “asylum based upon lifestyle.” This is code for denying asylum to gay men from Muslim countries whose visas have expired but will be put to death based only upon their homosexual status if forced to return to their home counties.

This is tacit approval of foreign countries rounding up killing gay people - just for being gay.

It’s no better than the American politicians in the 1930s who turned a blind eye to what the German and other European facist governments were doing to gays, Jews and other “undesirable” populations.

It’s shameful and I would never vote for a politician who does this. And I am angry that other people - especially otherwise intelligent people - would endorse such nonsense.

It’s not just gay stuff - they want to eliminate the minimum wage; eliminate overtime pay, and eliminate the IRS’s ability to strip tax-exempt status from “charities” that discriminate on the basis of race and sex, make it so that multi-billionaires living off trust funds never have to pay income tax.

Before you vote Republican - read the Republican platform:
http://www2.nationalreview.com/dest/2008/08/25/fulldraftaug25.pdf

I did and it very clearly says to me as a gay man:
1. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
2. WE DO NOT SEE YOU AS DESERVING BASIC HUMAN DIGNITY OR RESPECT.
3. WE WANT TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION TO MAKE YOU LESS THAN A FULL CITIZEN.

Does that make me angry? Yes.

Passive aggressive? No.

I am *actively* pointing out a plain and simple fact:

YOU CANNOT BE A SUPPORTER OF HILLARY IF YOU VOTE TO SUPPORT A PLATFORM THAT REPRESENTS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF HER BELIEFS.

There are zero substantive issues in common between McCain and Hillary.

None.

Don’t fool yourself. If you think you can support BOTH Hillary and McCain - you are NOT taking a logical, consistent approach to your voting.

A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote to kill every single reason Hillary decided to run for president to begin with.

And yes, it makes me angry that some people claim to be Hillary supporters - but by their actions they drag her good name through the mud and belittle the 40 years she has worked for poor and disenfranchised Americans - by claiming allegiance to McCain in the same breath.

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